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eldave76

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Is there anyone here who could help me set up a new EMM ? I know I should go to a dealer to have it done and would love to if it was possible. There are 2 Evinrude dealers in the Florida keys where I live. 1 no longer has a Tech and the other can not provide service until November.

I have a new EMM being shipped. The one on my motor will not stop giving a code 18. I have explored and tested everything except the EMM. I have genuine diagnostics and bootstrap cables being shipped. I can even get access to the dealer code. Please I could really use some help here.

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Hello all. I was hoping someone could give me some advise about what to do next with this issue. I was running the boat about a week ago and it kept going into safe mode. Its giving code 18.

I have tested the capacitor and cleaned connections. Stator resistance tests on all 3 windings were in spec, no grounded condition and the voltage output test was right on point. Flywheel and magnets all look clean. I have not removed but looking through vents looks like new. No rust.

I believe that leaves the EMM. Do I take it and have a recovery done first or do I need a new EMM. Please any advise would be great. I appreciate all of the assistance from you guys. Thanks in advance.


Make sure none of the magnets haven't got dislocated. Sometimes they can move a few mm and still look OK. Best to remove flywheel for this inspection. Also try to disconnect VST. HPP sometimes draws excessive amount of power from wear.  This would bring the 55volts circuit down. Code 18. Of course motor won't run for long without HPP. Idle only!

Seeing you have EV. Diag. you can do a recovery yourself. Bootstrap required. Procedure explained under help section. (Utilities).

To prepare new EMM: (Information). Password from Bossweb required.

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Nordman gave good advice on steps to check before EMM replacement. As far as the EMM, trying a recovery is a good step.
eldave76

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Thank you for the replies. I really do appreciate them. I upgraded to the newer Walbro VST a few weeks ago. Also the flywheel was supposedly just replace by prior owner. When I look through the ventilation holes the magnets look good. I have ordered the puller kit already because I though it was be best to see as well. As for the recovery. I will try. I can get Bossweb password. Is is possible for someone to walk me through the new emm set up ?
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Hi,
     Just a suggestion re “a walk through for EMM set up“. You will find this information in the Help section of the Evinrude Diagnostics.
     Unfortunately EvDiag Help Section is part of the EvDiag software but instead of waiting for your  EvDiag  to arrive you could get access to the EvDiag Help by going to this post, link below, then Select Folder EvDiag V5.7.4, download it (Windows OS required) and read the Help section contained therein. Use the Help “search” to quickly locate information.
   When you install the new EvDaig you are waiting on it will overwrite the V5.7.4

    Later Edit. Also the folder titled “Install-Update-Readme PDF“ will give you walk through for EMM recovery 
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eldave76

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Is it possible to do a recovery with an older version of diagnostics ?
eldave76

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I just received an email from Joe at Barnical Bill's. He gave me the best option which is to send them both EMM's and they will send to BRP to have the new one set up. I am grateful to them for their assistance and for this forum. Thanks to anyone who provided some information.

This is a way better option then me attempting to do it myself.
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Hi,
IMO a very good option for you. All to easy for the inexperienced to “brick” the EMM when doing anything involving the bootstrap cable.
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GEB,
Thanks for the advice. I will probably never use that bootstrap now. Lol
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GEB,
Thanks for the advice. I will probably never use that bootstrap now. Lol


I suggest you keep that bootstrap as you never know you just may need it sometime in the future. You may lack the experience to use it just now but if you keep reading the posts here (and the EvDiag Help Section) plus watching “How to” E-TEC Videos you will gain the “know how” to be confident with working on your E-TEC.
Like all things in life it always easy when you “know how” but also I’ve discovered that the more I learn the less I know LOL
Cheers
GEB

ps The “bootstrap” golden rule. Never connect or disconnect the bootstrap with the EMM powered up”

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eldave76

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Well I just wanted to wrap this up. New EMM installed thanks to Joe and his awesome wife (feel bad I did not get her name) at Barnical Bill's. Just for good measure an so hopefully I don't have to remove the flywheel anytime soon I also replaced the stator and a new PRV assembly. Still need to check the timing but I need to get a timing light. She started just fine and ran it around 1000 rpms on hoses and no code 18. Which it would not do before. So I'm gonna give it a seatrial and see how it goes.
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