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Marcus22

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Apologies if asked before.
I'm from South Africa and always support local business but not when I think I'm getting screwed over.

My EMM 586979 D, motor E90DPLSUM (05198566) packed up. 
I have a copy of the EDF.

My local agent wanted USD2700 for a new EMM.
My cousin in the US got me one for USD980. now everyone says support local, ha ha, that means USA is less than half the cost.
A local guy wants to charge me USD360 to program the new one, first it was USD100 and because I didn't support him he now wants USD360.

I have the software and bootstrap cable.

I see in one of the chats a new EMM requires a password to set it up - is this true and is there a way of getting past it?

In hind sight I should have got my cousin to get a local US agent program it for me.

So can anyone help, thanks.


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You can do this yourself, but you need the pass word. Hopefully the dealer who sold you the EMM can help. Otherwise only solution is local dealer.
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Gremlin

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Have almost the identical problem, but in a worse position regarding dealers...NONE.
ALready have new EMM with coldtest software on it and would like to upload the MAP for my engine, but there is no dealer here in Grenada. 
My question, which I'm sure has been asked before, is whether it is possible to download the MAP From my old EMM and upload to the new one? I can't find a place to download the MAP online and  am at wits end looking for a solution.
Any advice/help would be greatly appreciated....
Gremlin

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Engine model # E90DPXINC
Serial# 05323114
Year: 2011

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MAP software version# 3030451
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Is your old EMM accessible and readable by the E. Diagnostics software? 
Have you tried EMM Recovery on the old donor EMM?

If so and it failed then:

The old donor EMM must connect to software and be readable, try  the EMM Data Memory Transfer.
Will find directions under Help files, Windows/Utilities/EMM Data Memory Transfer.
EMM old Donor or new Recipent EMM can NOT have Coldtest loaded.

With no Dealer Password, you cannot do the Prepare New EMM programming routine.  Routine is not accessible nor shows as option. Will still have to have .edf Engine Data File from your old EMM, stored on computer every time EMM is accessed, should be on your computer.

Since Coldtest is already in the new Recipent EMM, you may be stuck having the dealer program the new EMM.

These were never meant to be owner/user non affiliatated with BRP programmed,  multiple country emissions restrictions laws require manufacturers to limit DIY owner home user programming access to their motor controllers aka EMMs.

Gremlin

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Thanks for the info..
Data file is readable and stored on my computer. 
Tried the memory transfer and it gives the error because of the Coldtest on the new one.

That means I'm screwed because there is no dealer here to program the new one for me, and the dealer who sold me the new one didn't think to install the MAP and I didn't know to ask.
My only options are expensive.....Find a dealer who will do the programming for me and then upload the old info. That means shipping it back to the US.

OUCH!
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Gremlin, if you have been able to connect to your old EMM with EV5 then your map file should be in the EDF folder under the exports menu.
Gremlin

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Thanks!!
Will take a look see.
You my have saved my bacon!!
Gremlin

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Unfortunately still stuck finding a dealer to install the MAP on the new EMM.
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sad  read here guys…. humans can reach  Voyager   100 gazillions  miles away  out of our solar  system but  EMM,s remain  unreachable …..  :-( 

 if  we were not all  on the internet  this could probably be done with  2 modems at 1200 bps  over a phone line [comp]

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sad  read here guys…. humans can reach  Voyager   100 gazillions  miles away  out of our solar  system but  EMM,s remain  unreachable …..  :-( 

 if  we were not all  on the internet  this could probably be done with  2 modems at 1200 bps  over a phone line [comp]


They are easy to reprogram with a simple password and a bootstrap tool for your comms cable.  Part of the problem is this gent is in the middle of nowhere.  

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Emissions control government agencies worldwide have set these mandatory emissions computer controlled engine requirements to prevent owner/user/racer from tampering with the emissions levels out the exhaust.
Put the main requirement controls on the manufacturers of motors.  The EPA here in the states has brought the hammer of death down on independent programming companies modifying the emissions and power firmware or deleting emissions hardware, especially on diesel pickups.
Large fines putting many out of business and Federal Court criminal prosecutions.

These policies have created almost insurmountably obstacles to all of us DIYers worldwide, worst is for the DIYers in remote locations.
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The OP got his answer in the first reply. Now the person who bought the EMM elsewhere than BB is having a problem, as mentioned by olypopper it is not hard if you have the tools and techniques, just like any job like saying flying to outer space. Why not contact the person you paid the money to and get the password needed, it will give you 72 hours access and then you can do the required process to get the engine going.
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