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bgreene

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From an overall reliability & # of issues perspective........which is " better " ?

1.  G2 steering issues have been reported quite a bit.
 Have there been other factory component issues too ?

2. G2 good and better years
Was the 1st year model a bit more problematic requiring Evinrude factory changes ?
Any years so far to avoid or have issues best to update.


This is not a performance thread......this is request for those considering G2 used or new.
Discounting improper installations, mishandling, bad fuel and all the other " user" caused issues. Straight up factory components.

surfishjoe

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Bump because my G1 200ho just lost a cylinder and looking at g2.
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From an overall reliability & # of issues perspective........which is " better " ?

1.  G2 steering issues have been reported quite a bit.
 Have there been other factory component issues too ?

2. G2 good and better years
Was the 1st year model a bit more problematic requiring Evinrude factory changes ?
Any years so far to avoid or have issues best to update.


This is not a performance thread......this is request for those considering G2 used or new.
Discounting improper installations, mishandling, bad fuel and all the other " user" caused issues. Straight up factory components.



G1 and G2 both had teething problems after initial release.  The G2 being more complex has had more problems but nearly all of the updates have been backward compatible and warranty normally gets customer's engines updated to modern spec in most scenarios.  

Steering problems have been largely dealt with and most folk aren't seeing problems.  If you are looking at a first model production run, make sure it's had updates performed.  The newest engines are of course up to date. 

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Went from a G1 200HO to a G2 200HO on my 24 Grady. Picked up 200 rpms spinning the same Rebel 15 x15.75 prop and correspondingly 1-2 knots. Used to turn 5450, now I can turn 5650. Mine is a 2019 and has been a great motor so far for the 100 hours I have used it this season.
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grady_22 do you have any fuel figures between the old G1 and the G2 on the same hull, also out of hole performance thoughts please?
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Not apple to apples but i repowered from G1 200 HO to G2 225 HO and holy smokes so far very impressed.  I don't not have gps hooked up to the gauge but here are some numbers from my first day running it at sea in 2-3 ft choppy seas.  This was on the way in with a quartering sea, no tabs engine trimmed in-
3400 rpm, 21 knots @6.2 gph
3500 rpm, 23 knots @6.5 gph
3700 rpm, 25 knots @7.5 gph
6000 rpm, 42.7 knots

I was by myself w standard fishing load of gear and equipment with about 60% fuel.  I do not have gph from old engine but I figured it burned a safe estimation of 2 mpg, that is what I always used to estimate fuel consumption and it probably did better but that was my safe estimation.  It topped out about 5500-5600rpm seeing 38-39 knots with a light load.  Prop used for both engines is a 17" Rebel that needs to be reconditioned as I do a lot of shallow water fishing and accidentally ran it onto a flat so it has some nicks.

I was most concerned about the increase in weight going from G1 to G2 but so far I have not noticed a change in waterline or running attitude, in fact it seems to handle better than my old engine in that I can trim it up higher without porpoising.  When I finally pull the boat for the season in the next coming weeks I plan on having the prop lab finished and balanced with the pitch increased to 19".  The torque is amazing in the rough stuff I can run with tabs down engine tucked and i don't have to touch the throttle i can just drive through the seas picking my way through- this is on days when most normal people aren't fishing unless you are in a 26' regulator or bigger heavier boat than my little Mako.  Any questions let me know, classicmako.com is back up so I plan on putting pics and info on the repower there as well.  I have put 10 hours on the engine since I launched it 12/12.

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FinestKind

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What's better?
G2 with TRAC midsection...all the benefits, none of the internal steering issues.

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grady_22 do you have any fuel figures between the old G1 and the G2 on the same hull, also out of hole performance thoughts please?


Did not see this reply until now. I would say I am averaging about .3-.4 nmpg increase with the G2. With the Rebel on the G1 200HO would burn 1.9 to 2.2 nmpg depending on fishing load, with the G2 the range is 2.2 to 2.6 nmpg.

The hole shot I would say is marginally improved, the midrange torque increase on the G2 is incredibly apparent.
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