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chrisrik

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Hi!

Just bought å pair of used 200 g1 etec with icon controls.

While installing the rigging gear I by accident discovered that when the control leaver is installed on the boat, the boats negative is guided on to the boat!

Through the battery, tyrough the etec command hub up the binnacle and to its bolts.

I can barely measure connection from the cable (what I suspect is its grounding pin) and its bolts connecting the binnacle to the hull/console.

Is there any guides on how to open the thing?
Have not dearer to continue the rigging until this is sorted. So I dunno if the thing is working or not.

I can hear something is loose inside the thing..

Ang help is much appreciated!

Christian
chrisrik

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Managed to open the controller and tracked the problem down to the two screws fastening the circutboard.
From the ground cable, I can measure a very very low connection to the copper area on the circutboard around the hole in which the screws go through..

Now the question is, are the two screws necessary - when the board is not fixed, no connection is made to the hull/console.
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Can you share pictures?
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Metallic boat I assume?  Otherwise, there would be no problem.

The fact that the PC board grounds to the housing and mounting studs may well be intentional.  By grounding the housing of the control, it will act to suppress radiated emissions and reduce potential EMI issues.

In my opinion, I would not leave the PC board loose to flop around and likely be damaged.  I might suggest an insulating device which would isolate the mounting studs from the metallic console.
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Hi and thanks for your reply.

Picture of the curcut board below. The wires from the two red connectors goes to each throttle-lever. The grey cable goes to the "lid" with the sync, rpm, trim-buttons.

The "problem" is the two holes, with copper coating along the edge. Both these is weakly connected to the grounding wire coming from the connector that goes to the Etec Hub (not visible on the picture, but is "further down" the circutboard).
And further to the screw and then obviously on to the casing and bolts.

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chrisrik

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Picture of the Partnumber/serialnumber on the binnacle.
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chrisrik

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Any updated thoughts? Just mounted it all back on. with the screws mounted. Still have a weak connections between the bolt holding the Binnacle and the aluminium console.
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Mount the binnacle on a cut section of Star board or similar, electricall isolate the binnacle shell/mounting from the metal helm/boat.
Boat and motor install shops do this all the time.
Suzukis also have this binnacle multi grounding and ground loop problem with binnacles mounted on metal hull/helm boats.
chrisrik

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Thanks fornthe reply steelhead :-)
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I think Evinrude has a standard part for mounting ICON controls on a high-density plastic material similar to KING StarBoard. I used one for mounting my ICON EST control to cover the odd-shape cutout in the console that remained from the original mechanical controls.
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chrisrik

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Everything is now hooked up. Ignition is on and instruments light up, fuel pump starts and no engine warnings. But the binnacle seems not to get any power (led does not turn on). Also hooked up the computer but it won't connect as it can't identify the key switches.

The positive and negative going from the icon network hub is all right, and as the ignition switch is working, I would think that all is ok with the icon network.

Any suggestion on where to start troubkeshooting next?
chrisrik

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studied the circut board inside and done my best at ohm-ing around the board. But this is really beyond my competence :) so I really cant tell if something is broken or not. Pictures follow later.

What I did though manage was to establish that as soon as I turn the ignition on - the binnacle is supplied with 12V through the Icon hub.

I therefore conclude that whatever the problem is, it has to be located somwhere in the binnacle.

Can someone confirm that the LED-gearshift indicator(s) light up as soon as the ignition goes on (if all is well that is)?

In the Icon troubleshooting-guide I can't seem to find the situation where icon-instruments and ignition is on and remote controller is off.

All 4 EMM-LED indicators do light up as the ignition goes on (on both engines). As far as I can tell that confirms winterization? (which was done just before the engines was removed off the last boat).
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Are you certain that the control head LEDs have just not been dimmed to a level you can’t visualize them?
chrisrik

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Pretty sure, as I have lights in the instruments.

But I'll do an extra check tonight! Thanks Didn't cross my mind 😉
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Didn't work :) still dead.
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