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ForrestOutdoor

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Hey mates, just a simple question, anyone had issues with the throttle getting hung up?

I’ve torn it all down and can’t seem to pinpoint if it’s in the control or down line somewhere. Everything still works fine but from 35* to WOT I’ve got to bear down on it to get it moving. Now I had it on the water and it did this and when I returned it to neutral the RPM gauge showed 2k and motor was running rough. I killed it and since I just messed with the TPS I figured it was on me. But everything is reading right and no faults.

I read on here somewhere (unless I misunderstood) I can lubricate the cable with a thin lubricant?

Any experiences or thoughts would be great, I’ll take it out tonight with diagnostics and see if it changes anything.

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Need to post Model Number(s) - and serials are even better along with them.

If cables are old, they may be getting sticky or stretched.  The Newer cables like XTreme are great, and Do Not lubricate them.  That only asks for dirt and dust to accumulate and stick them worse.

I would disconnect the shift and throttle cables at the engine and see how the throttle itself moves, along with the cable ends.  Have a helper maybe hold the ends and check again for resistance?  Not much sense replacing parts until you actually know why the problem is happening.

Hope it helps!

Phil

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Pictures of the control will be very helpful. The latest and current dual binnacle is not known to have issues; however, it’s predecessor is known for problems over time.
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Sorry guys I’ll get pics and a video up tomorrow but it’s 5006184 dual control
E150DCXSUC 05146602
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Sorry guys I’ll get pics and a video up tomorrow but it’s 5006184 dual control
E150DCXSUC 05146602
E150DPXSUC 05146171

OK that on is the latest control. I would be looking to the shift levers and linkage on the engine. Corrosion has been known to cause the linkage to become stiff and stiff shifting makes for hard throttle operation.
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Well Im working on pics and the video, Mobile version isn't letting me put up the video for some reason.

Anyways went back through all the linkage on both motors, Each ended up having like half an inch play and weren't hitting WOT stop. So I adjusted them into BB spec per his TPS video, with it needing that much adjustment I really expected with it in neutral the pressure on the stop to be excessive so initially I only adjusted a little but found it didn't bother it at all.(and this was only throttle cables I didn't mess with shifting cable. 

I still have the stick point but while making the video the top linkage (the block on top) came apart and I was able to roll thru each cable individually, finding no hang up from throttle lever to shifting link and then by hand on just the throttle cable. I hope this makes sense to someone lol So simply put the lever doesn't stick when only cycling shifting link and throttle cable goes back and forth freely by hand.

Out on the lake STBD was running right at 5k by itself (gained 1k from previous trial) no codes and sounded smooth. Port now (throttle sticking one) wont get out of 2-3k rpm at best before bogging down. I ran it on the monitor and then tested to make sure things were in spec and it looked fine. At WOT it ran like crap but TPS voltage mimicked a motor running WOT. In my mind I picture TPS info running in a loop and with me reading EMM side it wouldn't tell me anything different then what it tells fuel delivery right? 

Sorry I get long winded sometimes, from yalls suggestions and then reading other threads I try and test or look at everything before posting again.

On a side note I also found out on the lake my 3 yr old son decided to fill my fish boxes with a garden hose, for the "fishies" per him. but I pulled the macerator and it dumps in the hull....drain plug in and the hull was filled to the brim. had so much weight on the trailer when I went to pull off I dragged the Tahoe halfway in the lake. boats 3500 without gear and fuel.



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Hi,
   Re, “Mobile version isn't letting me put up the video for some reason.”
Upload your video to a file sharing service eg Drive, Dropbox ect then post a link to it here.
Cheers
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Lets see if I did this right 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WvCR485MicmBBV7KGxGHxZCRQbBAPEWP/view?usp=sharing

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I see the shift cable struggling to reach the end of its stroke before the throttle cable starts to move. Disconnect the cable from the control box and try again.
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So Initially the throttle cable wasn’t connected, and I was attempting to show fairly smooth operation. Then I pulled the throttle cable up to reconnect without issue or much force but with both connected it’s hanging up. Idk it’s a crap video honestly without it being mounted it’s hard to gauge the force I’m using. Let me get another one up here shortly better showing it.
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If both cables are disconnected in the control box and the operation is smooth The issue lies with the cables or linkage on the engine.
if the shift cable does not reach full travel before the throttle cable starts to move, the throttle will be very hard to move. Have you check operation of ref number 11.

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If both cables are disconnected in the control box and the operation is smooth The issue lies with the cables or linkage on the engine.
if the shift cable does not reach full travel before the throttle cable starts to move, the throttle will be very hard to move. Have you check operation of ref number 11.

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Ok I see what your saying, I never even noticed that. Thought they moved in uniform though obviously I never looked hard. I’ve been out here playing with it for an hour now and I can’t get it to hang up (not complaining at all btw) the only thing I’ve done is adjust WOT on cable link. I did use WD-40 to clean the threads initially but that’ll just mask the problem briefly anyways. Maybe the slack I pulled out adjusting?

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With things disassembled as you have done, it’s now a process of elimination.

Cables disconnected at the engine and the control. Verify control operation wo cables connected.

Connect cables to control verify operation. If all works ok then issues are at engine. Linkage, shift rod height, clutch dog in neutral, and when in forward rotate propshaft to make sure it’s engaged ann not lug on lug.

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With the cables disconnected from the engine you should be able to move the engine shift lever with two fingers at the cable connection point while slowly rotating the prop.
For cable adjustment the control box should be in neutral. Engine shift lever should be in neutral and vertical (parallel to the intake gasket line). Adjust the cable so the end slips onto the lever pin. Test shift action while rotating the prop or engine at idle. A worn cable can move freely but bind when under a load.
Throttle cable should be adjusted so there is 3/16" gap between the throttle roller and throttle cam.
The control box will bind if the box lever cannot move fully into gear before the throttle moves.
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