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kja3024

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I have used Advanced Marine for an inspection, and seal replacement on an M1 150 LU with 1400 hours.  Joe is a top shelf technician, he has all of the parts, can do gear lash, alignment and expertly knows the product.  I can only highly recommend him.  BTW - my seals were stiff and worn with flat spots on a E150DPXSUC model.  First time it had been pulled down. 


Thanks for the recommendation. He seemed like a stand up guy when I talked to him. Said he would walk me through the process if needed. 
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So, I just took the prop off and I found this already. This must have been done by previous owner as you can see the brass has a lot of oxidation. So much for the dealer saying it was in perfect working order.  20190605_132453 (1).jpg  20190605_132510.jpg  20190605_133216.jpg 
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"It did not show any signs of damage when i bought it though. I don't think I have a leg to stand on with the dealer."

Well, just me, but maybe you DO have a leg to stand on - it was "hidden damage".  All that oxidation says you didn't do it in your 5 hours of running.  I'd try the "nice" approach first - Guys, this was supposed to be in "good shape".  It obviously wasn't, so how do we address this?

Unless your purchase contract specifically says "Sold As Is" and they're still giving you the cold shoulder, I'd then go a bit harder with "We shouldn't have to get attorneys involved here, should we?"  That may make them stop and think a bit.  [wink]

Good Luck!

Phil

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"It did not show any signs of damage when i bought it though. I don't think I have a leg to stand on with the dealer."

Well, just me, but maybe you DO have a leg to stand on - it was "hidden damage".  All that oxidation says you didn't do it in your 5 hours of running.  I'd try the "nice" approach first - Guys, this was supposed to be in "good shape".  It obviously wasn't, so how do we address this?

Unless your purchase contract specifically says "Sold As Is" and they're still giving you the cold shoulder, I'd then go a bit harder with "We shouldn't have to get attorneys involved here, should we?"  That may make them stop and think a bit.  [wink]

Good Luck!

Phil


That was my exact approach in that order, lol.  I get the response "not our fault". As far as the lawyer threat, I got "talk to Bxxxxx, they deal with the lawyers". They don't care and know I will pay more in legal fees than to just fix it myself.
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How about "I'll spread this all over the internet and all around the local area."?  This is what I was sold, and look what I got.

I'm just thinking they're either outright "shysters", or will be gone pretty quickly, which sort of amounts to the same thing.  [frown]  I still think the previous guy hit something, got it diagnosed, and sold it to them pretty cheap as a trade-in, or on "consignment"?

EDIT:  Any "As Is" clause in there?  Some states may have a "fit for use" law.  The state may be looking at them as a Dealer with "un-sound" business practices.  You just take the time to inform the state.  They may then be jumping through hoops to make it right at no cost to you.

Fingers crossed for you!

Phil

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Considering you bought it on consignment doubtful you have a leg to stand on.
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Has EOG sank to the level of laymen giving unasked for legal advice on every post like The Hell No Truth site?  Thought this was a E-TEC owners technical help site?

Didn't I read in the Do Nots on here that giving legal advice is a No No?

Can we get back to technical help to owners?

Prop took a high speed hard hit to split the prop fitting that much.  Expect internal damage to gears and bearings.  Case needs to be checked for bent and hairline cracks.  Prop shaft likely bent and/or splines twisted, drive shaft also

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I appreciate all replies. I didn't mean to start any trouble here on the EOG. I look at is as just a converstion, which is nice because, let's just say I was ready to puke when I discovered what was wrong. So just to have other people talk to me about makes it a little less painful. For the record I did buy it as a consignment/As-Is. Although, I was told it was in perfect running order and a certified mechanic inspected it for 2 hours. That is my main fight with the dealer. There is no way it was looked at in any way.
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You're not starting any sort of trouble in my mind.  I'm just giving my thoughts and "conversation" on what I'd be doing or thinking if it was me.

I'm just Ol' Shade Tree Phil, who tries to "Give back on here for the help that I've been given in the past".

Sometimes a bit of "off the wall" or "shade tree" advice can help "ease the pain" in your wallet.  See my Sig, which came about after some folks suggested thousands in diagnosis and repair, which turned out to not be needed.  That was a couple years ago though.  [wink]

EDIT: In your case, you're looking at thousands in repairs (for sure), the question is - who pays?

Best at ya!

Phil

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I would not even bother trying to rebuild it yourself.  Most the cost is in parts anyways.

In my older 2-smoke 'Rude, the LU needed rebuilding a couple of times and the labor cost was only US$300 or so.

Good luck!

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I did end up rebuilding the LU myself. Parts were just under $1400, would have been around 1000 if I didn't need to replace the rear bearing carrier. It took me about 1.5-2 evenings after work to complete. It really isn't that hard if you are not afraid to dig into things. I also had great tech support from Joe at Advanced Marine, any questions were answered immediately via call or text. I changed the oil after about a 10-15 hr. break in period. Oil looked good with only a very slight shimmer and barely any "fuzz" on the plugs. Just want to say thank you to everyone that helped me out and get us back on the water to enjoy the summer. Cheers! 
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We always love to hear Happy Endings!  A "side benefit" is that you also know a lot more about that 'machine' and how it all works.

ENJOY! [thumb]

Phil

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