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fish_crazy

Registered: 06/14/08
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Until now the motor had worked flawlessly.  First two trips this year: No oil light on external gauge right after leaving dock, went into safe mode.  Turned off and restarted with no warning lights showing.  Worked all day without a problem. Next two days: Motor started and no error codes came on.  Ran about 5 miles down the lake and slowed down.  Engine missed badly or pre-denotation and engine would only go to fast idle and nothing else.  Turned off and restarted, engine went into safe mode with no oil, hot error codes appearing on gauge.  Let engine cool off and it would work perfectly until I got to the dock and then same thing. (fast idle only, turn off, safe mode with no oil, hot error codes).  I had replaced plugs on the third day (no change) and marked oil tank, it used about 6oz. oil in 15 miles, gas use unknown.

It went to the dealer and they hooked it to a computer.  It showed no error codes.  They think it is a loose wire, but can’t find it.  Could it be a bad pump, gauge or partly clogged oil filter?  They claim there is no oil filter, but I thought there is one on the pick-up tube.  They don’t work on E-TECs much, so any help is appreciated.

Tiller steering, approx. 130 hrs.   Model: E90DPSR (2004)  Serial #: 05065229


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Without being able to troubleshoot the motor, my guess is the EMM may be intermittent. Usually 3 lights come on the System Check gauge when this happens. Are you sure the CHECK ENGINE light is not on when the HOT and NO OIL  turn on?

You could be having 2 different problems, an oil bubble in the system giving false NO OIL alarms and an overheating issue. A trained tech has to duplicate the problem with a laptop installed to know for sure.

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Talk about déjà vu, almost identical to my new 2006 HO.

 

As you know the dealer gave me another new 2006HO after 3 hours use and the no oil disappeared. That makes me hope it was an air bubble.

 

The high temp came on again and they have changed the inlet screens, yet to be tested by me, but dealer said it was ok now.

 

My money is on EMM, waiting for upgrade when he gets the boot strap


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fish_crazy

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seahorse, I forgot to mention that, yes, the check engine light comes on when the no oil and hot codes came on.  So would this indicated a possible overheating issue, an air bubble or an EMM issue?  The tech said that the only error showing up on the computer was when I tried to start it in gear.  Thanks for all the help and an E-TEC forum that I was happy to find.  I still love my E-TEC.
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seahorse, I forgot to mention that, yes, the check engine light comes on when the no oil and hot codes came on. 
 
 
That confirms that the EMM is flakey and intermittent. Have your tech call the factory, tell them the 3-lite story, and they will want to exchange your EMM for you.
 

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fish_crazy

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Update:  I talked to the local service tech working on my motor and showed him seahorses response about the EMM.  He said the BRP service tech had been up last Friday and hooked up the computer and then took it out on the lake for 1 1/2 hours and nothing went wrong.  Everything was working perfectly, I hate when that happens.  The local tech believes that the EMM is not bad and it is still a wire issue or faulty gauge.  He claims they never go bad, ya right.... He would not call the service tech about the 3 lite error code and said they will never replace it, instead  wire harnesses would be changed first before they would spend $1500.  At least for now BRP is working on it with no cost to me, even tho the warranty expired.  So right now I am SOL.  I will put some hours on it and if it acts up I will unplug the gauge to see if that is the problem.  I am going to Canada in a month and would hate to have it go out when I am 35 miles down Lac Seul and out in the middle of nowhere. I will let everyone know what shakes out.
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Talk to a different dealer or perhaps the Evinrude customer service department may help.

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fish_crazy

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Thanks seashorse for the information.  I do have another dealer 20 miles away which is very good and I will keep the customer service department in mind.  Thanks for a great site.............
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