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LourPitcher

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Evinrude E-TEC Bulletin 2012=02(W), is not a  "recall" but  it does call for dealers to provide for the removal and replacement of all affected model 2008 -2010 Pressure Relief Valve Assemblies whether customers are in warranty or out-of warranty.

http://www.etecownersgroup.com/file?id=1355494

As my 225HO E-TEC model was not listed in the bulletin, I first assumed I was not affected.  I became concerned when my valve seemed to match the info in the bulletin.  

After a call to Evinrude support this morning, they confirmed the bulletin's affected model  list is incomplete and that I do have a factory installed valve assembly that requires replacement and so it and the $$$ costs are being fully covered by the bulletin.

Owners, especially those of us without close by authorized servicing dealers, might should examine their motors for this affected part and not necessarily just trust the models listing within the bulletin.

Removing the cowl it is easy to visually check the original valve.  On the pic on p 2 of 3  in the bulletin, it shows a stamped # 347239 just below the suspect valve's housing retention nut.  That stamped number matched mine, and a call to BRP  Support with my unlisted model number confirms the bulletin applied.  I was urged to get mine replaced under the bulletin campaign terms.


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jimh

Registered: 06/28/08
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Lou--Thanks for the interesting additional information on the service bulletin and which models of E-TEC engines are affected.

As it happened, my model-year 2010 E-TEC 225-HP outboard engine was among the models affected by this service bulletin. My engine has operated only in fresh water, and, being aware that there were reports of some corrosion and problems with the pressure relief valve assembly, I had looked at the pressure relief valve assembly on my E-TEC. I had not noted any corrosion. However, my dealer contacted me earlier this year and told me the pressure relief valve assembly would be replaced as part of a service bulletin from Evinrude.

When the original pressure relief valve assembly was removed from my E-TEC engine, upon very close inspection we could see some slight indication that one or two of the  steel fasteners had been exposed to a bit of water, which we assumed most likely came from a leak in the seal of the assembly. Prior to this very close examination, no visual inspection had observed any sign of a leak associated with the pressure relief valve. Since my engine has only been run in freshwater, the corrosion caused by the suspected leak was very minor, amounting to only a bit of tarnish of the finish of the  hardware.

Also, and perhaps affecting the tendency to leak, my E-TEC is not operating at high boat speeds. The top boat speed for my E-TEC is typically 30-MPH. On  very rare occasions and for very short times the boat may be running faster than 40-MPH, with perhaps 42-MPH being the absolute top speed. In contrast, some of these V6 E-TEC engines are probably on boats that run much faster, perhaps as fast as 70-MPH, and run at those speeds all the time and for long durations. My understanding is that when running at those speeds the pressure in the cooling system can become much higher. The higher pressure may cause the pressure relief valve assembly to have a tendency to leak more than was observed on my relatively slow boat.
AnglerManagement

Registered: 05/29/12
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There are at least some 2007 models affected as well. Hats off to BRP for taking care of this the way they are.
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derwd24

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Yes, ours is an '07 200 HO and has that same number on the plastic housing.  Just read the actual bulletin and am going to check to see if there's a number on the mounting bracket and look for the reinforced ribs on the housing.
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Well done BRP ! 
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What about the earlier 2004 - 2006 models - same valve assembly and issue ?
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The earlier engines do not have the M2 gearcase that increases water pressure at very high speeds, plus the models had all stanless steel hardware on them.
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The earlier engines do not have the M2 gearcase that increases water pressure at very high speeds, plus the models had all stanless steel hardware on them.


What about engines like ours that have the valve in question but the M1 gearcase?  Still have it replaced or not a big deal?

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Seahorse - the early 2005 ones didn't have S/S nuts/bolts mate.
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Seahorse - the early 2005 ones didn't have S/S nuts/bolts mate.


As far as I know, they did have stainless hardware until around 08 or 09 when someone changed it to plated nuts and did not tell anyone at the time. They are back to stainless steel again.

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roguecapt

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I know it's not listed in the Bulletin but is there any chance this applies to the V4's  Mine is a 2007. 
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I know it's not listed in the Bulletin but is there any chance this applies to the V4's  Mine is a 2007. 


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Cheers, I think the bottom line with this for all V6 big block owner's - if you are in doubt, change it.  It's not an expensive part, but the cost of failure can be high.  The beauty with an E-TEC is that they are relatively simple design (not something that can be said for many modern production 4-Strokes).

The best news is that BRP have stood by the customer and done something to offer a fix.

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Followup to my original post....

New part was installed yesterday by a small but an official Evinrude service location about an hours drive from here at no costs to me.   I tested  my Engine cooling and it is working fine. 

Evinrude does not seem to recognize that their dependance on official notifications to reach customers solely through a  fragmented dealer network is not a viable nor a current working model.  It is not possible for a customer like me to determine if any official Evinrude dealer or servicer is looking out for them.  So far none have contacted me on this important factory campaign and I'm registered and also in the local phone book and like many here, our dealers are no longer in business.   

Thanks to reading this forum, we know that the factory was wanting a servicer somewhere to inform us of a factory defect and countermeasure like this.  Thanks to http://www.etecownersgroup.com



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leesfishin

Registered: 05/09/11
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hi all,
i have a 200ho 2007 model e200dhxsux i have had the pressure releif valve replaced last year as it was leeking. i just checked an i have the old part no (5006527) fitted.
i also had my motor serviced on the 8/09/12 and my dealer has not mentioned any thing about this recall,i  just checked brp australia web site (as i live in perth w australia) for recalls and there is nothing listed there.the last recall was march 16th 2011.
should i be replacing this with the new part ?
i looked at boat.net and they still have the old part no listed.

any advise would be great !
thanks lee


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